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Attorney

Elliot Vance

Probate and estate administration  ·  San Jose, California

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2015

Year of admission

California

Jurisdiction

N.D. Cal.

U.S. District Court, 2017

Santa Clara

Probate volunteer panel, 2019

9th Cir.

U.S. Court of Appeals, 2020

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Languages ยท English, Spanish

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What Elliot does for the people who call him

The work

Elliot carries the probate files. Petitions, notices, inventories, appraisals and the hearings that follow, for families who have discovered that there was no trust, or that the trust did not own the thing that mattered.

Probate is procedural work with a human deadline attached, and most of what goes wrong in it is a form filed in the wrong order.

Before the firm

He clerked in a probate department before practice, which is where he learned what a court actually wants to see and how little of it is discretionary.

He joined the firm to run the proceedings the planning side is designed to avoid, for the families who arrive without one.

How he works

He gives families a calendar at the outset with every date on it, including the ones set by the court rather than by him. Probate is slow, and the slowness is easier when it is expected.

He appears himself. Families are not introduced to their lawyer on the morning of a hearing.

Away from the practice

Elliot lives in San Jose and cycles the hills behind it at an hour most people would not describe as morning. He is a competent bread baker and an enthusiastic, hopeless golfer.

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Education, admissions, associations and recognition

Education
Santa Clara University School of Law

Juris Doctor

2015
University of California, Davis

Bachelor of Arts, Philosophy

2011
Admissions and courts
State Bar of California

Attorney and Counselor at Law

2015
U.S. District Court, Northern District of California

General Bar

2017
U.S. Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit

Bar of the Court

2020
Associations
Santa Clara County Bar Association

Member, Probate and Trust Section

2016
Santa Clara County Superior Court

Probate volunteer panel

2019
State Bar of California

Trusts and Estates Section

2016
Recognition
Santa Clara County Bar Association

Pro bono service, probate self-help clinic

2022

Source: Santa Clara County Bar Association, 2022

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What this costs and how long it takes

California sets the statutory fee for an ordinary probate by formula, on the value of the estate. Elliot will run that number for you at the first call, because it is arithmetic rather than an estimate.

A small estate procedure

Where the estate qualifies, the affidavit or petition that avoids a full proceeding.

Fee basis
Flat fee.
Typical time
Forty days from the date of death before it can be used, then two to six weeks.

An ordinary probate

Petition through to final distribution, for an estate with no contest in it.

Fee basis
The statutory fee, set by the Probate Code on the value of the estate, and disclosed in writing at the outset.
Typical time
Nine to eighteen months, and the court's calendar sets much of it.

Extraordinary work

A sale of real property, a contested creditor claim, or litigation inside the proceeding.

Fee basis
Applied for separately and allowed by the court, never charged without an order.
Typical time
Added to the proceeding rather than run alongside it.

Nobody can shorten a probate below the statutory notice periods. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.

What moves a matter up a band: real property to be sold, a missing heir, a creditor who has filed, and an original will nobody can find.

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Who he is not the right lawyer for

Elliot takes probate and estate administration. Some things he will not take, and he says so on the first call rather than the third.

  • A will contest as the main event.

    Where the fight is over the validity of the document itself, that is litigation and it is its own practice. He refers it, by name.

  • An estate that does not need a probate.

    If a small estate procedure will do, he will tell you that, and it is a much smaller engagement than the one you came in asking for.

  • A family that wants one lawyer for several heirs with different interests.

    He acts for the personal representative. Other heirs are told to get their own advice, early.

  • Anything requiring a result before the statutory notice period runs.

    It cannot be done. He will explain why rather than take the retainer.

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Written by Elliot

Probate is not a punishment. It is a queue.

What the word has come to mean

Probate has acquired a reputation as a disaster that befalls careless families. Most of what people believe about it comes from advertising for the products sold to avoid it.

It is a court-supervised process for moving property from a person who has died to the people entitled to it. It is public, it is slow, and it is mostly clerical.

Why it takes as long as it does

The delay is not the court thinking. It is the notice periods, which are fixed by statute and exist so that creditors and heirs who do not yet know can find out in time to say something.

A creditor has four months from the issue of letters. A small estate affidavit cannot be used until forty days after the death. No lawyer can compress those, and a lawyer who implies otherwise is describing a different process.

What actually costs money

The ordinary fee is set by formula on the value of the estate, which means the price of a straightforward probate is knowable on the first call. What is not knowable is whether the estate stays straightforward.

Real property to be sold, a creditor who files, an heir nobody can locate: each of those adds a petition, and each petition adds a hearing date at whatever distance the court's calendar is running.

When you can skip it entirely

California has small estate procedures that a surprising number of families qualify for and never hear about, because the person they asked stood to earn more from the alternative.

The thresholds change. Ask whether you qualify before you agree to anything, and ask the person telling you no to show you the arithmetic.

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Selected matters

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Daughter, estate with no trust and one house
Santa Clara County · 2024
Arrived with
A will, a house, a frozen bank account and a sibling living in the property.
At stake
Whether the house could be sold at all, and on what terms the occupant would leave.
What Elliot did
Opened the probate, obtained letters, secured an order confirming the sale, and closed the estate in fourteen months.
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Surviving spouse, estate under the threshold
Probate avoided · 2023
Arrived with
A quote from another firm for a full probate on an estate that did not require one.
At stake
Roughly a year of proceedings and a statutory fee, against a single petition.
What Elliot did
Filed a spousal property petition. One hearing, six weeks, and no probate opened.
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Personal representative, stalled two-year file
Santa Clara County · 2022
Arrived with
A probate opened by prior counsel, defective notice, no inventory filed and four continued hearings.
At stake
Removal of the representative, and the estate's exposure to a creditor claim nobody had answered.
What Elliot did
Cured the notice, filed the inventory and appraisal, answered the claim, and took the file to final distribution in seven months.

Matters are described in general terms. Prior results do not guarantee a similar outcome.

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What counsel say

Elliot told my referral that she did not need a probate, which cost him the fee and earned me every file I have sent since.
Marisol Trevino Partner, Real Property Trevino Adler, San Jose Referring counsel to Elliot Vance since 2019
He files complete papers. In a probate department that is not a small compliment.
Alan Whitcombe Retired Judge, Probate Division Los Angeles Superior Court Former supervising judge
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What happens after you write

  1. You write. I read it myself the day it arrives.
  2. We speak within one business day. Thirty minutes, by phone, no charge.
  3. If the estate qualifies for a small estate procedure, I tell you on that call, and the engagement is a great deal smaller than you expected.

The statutory fee for an ordinary probate is set by formula and disclosed in writing at the outset.

Extraordinary fees are applied for and allowed by the court. You will never see one charged without an order.

Write to Elliot

Probate and estate administration, from the San Jose office. There is no cost for the first conversation.

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